Replace Entry Wizard 2.0

[rexdarby]

I am looking to replace my entry wizard 2.0 with a new system with more options. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[Greg Pack]

What are you looking for, exactly? More fleet options?

[rexdarby]

What are you looking for, exactly? More fleet options?

I am looking for something more user friendly, more fleet options, daily reporting....

[robblackburn]

Did you look at the orginal entry wizard? I am sure that it would have all of the options that you are looking for. Maybe Coleman would take your 2.0 on trade.

[Austin]

I am also looking into switching out the Rowe bill acceptor to a Mars acceptor in the JC Entry Wizard. Has anyone done this successfully? I've already spoke with Jim at Etowah Valley and he doesn't have a solution due to the all the JC parts. I have consistant bill jams with the Rowe and need to switch to Mars to elimate customer complaints. I already spoke with JC and they said it can't be done, although they offer Mars acceptors on their new Entry Wizard. Greg, any suggestions?

[Jimmy Buffett]

Don't know if this will help you but I believe that the Hamilton STA is as good as the Mars. Costs more though. I have no idea if it will work on the Wizard. I would be out of business if I had a Rowe acceptor on my auto.

[Austin]

I originally purchased Hamiltons in my changers and switched those out to mars within 6 mos due to daily bill jams and headaches. The mars have worked flawlessly on every machine I own. I'm going to have to stick with mars if I can get it changed out. Anyone else?

[Jimmy Buffett]

Bet they weren't STA's.

[robblackburn]

I am also looking into switching out the Rowe bill acceptor to a Mars acceptor in the JC Entry Wizard. Has anyone done this successfully? I've already spoke with Jim at Etowah Valley and he doesn't have a solution due to the all the JC parts. I have consistant bill jams with the Rowe and need to switch to Mars to elimate customer complaints. I already spoke with JC and they said it can't be done, although they offer Mars acceptors on their new Entry Wizard. Greg, any suggestions?

Austin - I think that you were given some wrong information. I am sure that coleman has a Mars conversion kit for the Entry Wizard. I would give them a call and ask again.

Rob

[Austin]

I will ask again but my equipment rep said he spoke to them directly and that there was no conversion. Would be nice to have, had another weekend of jammed bills.

[dclark3344]

Austin,
Who is your equipment rep? Are you also going thru him to get your BA50 rebuilt?

[Austin]

Not sure I follow. I'm not having anything rebuilt. As of right now I am looking to replace or convert my Rowes in my Entry Wizards over to Mars validators to eliminate bill jams and finicky acceptance. The one direction rowes just arent' working for my customers. Other problem is that it spits the bill out so fast that most the time they are picking it up off the ground which really ****es them off (b/c they have to back the car up, get out and re-insert) I watch this repeatedly on the video and I have to change it.

[dclark3344]

The BA 50 have to have the belts replaced about every 6 months. How old are your Rowes? I had mine rebuilt several times before converting over to Mars. There was a problem with the stacker cracking the back roller on the bill acceptor. I ground mine down about 1/8 inch. How many spares do you keep and what failure codes are you getting on the display inside the cabinet? I also took out the aluminum rails and installed solid plastic parking blocks. NO MORE DAMAGED rims. Customers love it.

[Reds]

Where did you get the solid plastic parking blocks? Are they plastic parking lot bumpers? Any website info where I could get a look at them? Thanks for any info.

[dclark3344]

Red
I found them on the internet. The Recycled Plastics Man out of Florida. His were Solid Plastic where most are hallow. If you do not find the site email me and I will look up the receipt. I have been very pleased with them and My customers like them so much better. The Aluminum pipe rails grabbed customers tires pulling the wheel into the rail and damaged many rims. The blocks are tapered so the wet tires slide and they have never hurt a rim.
David

[Austin]

DClark are you saying that you converted your Rowe validators inside your entry wizard to Mars? If so how did you do it and how is it going? My Rowes in the Entry Wiz are less than a year old.

[dclark3344]

Austin,
Yes I did convert my Entry Wizards from Rowe to Mars, The Mars stacker in the small one and needs to be emptied every busy day. The larger stacker will hit on the coin hopper. I had to get an adapter to mount the Mars to the door where the plate is for the Rowe. I had to remove Rowe stacker assembly and do some wiring changes to work off the Mars. The accounting thinks I am just getting coins because the Mars gives 4 pulses for a dollar and the Rowe counts dollars. I also had to do some wiring to the Rowe CCC and replace the chip in the box in the upper left hand corner. It was quite an ordeal but it was well worth it. Now I take any bill any direction everytime. DAVID

[cleaning up mud]

We have mars and coinco and both work great!!! got rid of all hamilton acceptors.

[I.B. Washincars]

We have mars and coinco and both work great!!! got rid of all hamilton acceptors.

Don't let your guard down. That Coinco is a ticking time bomb :(

[dclark3344]

Your equipment rep is either lying or not keeping up with Coleman. Forget him and call coleman parts. They have a conversion and I have listed parts here on the Jim Colema Thread. You have to remove the old Rowe stacker and BA. You have to change the chip in the cyle switch board or buy a new board. You have to get a mounting adapter because the Mars mounts directly to the door. The big deal is in the accounting the Mars counts in quarters and will list all income as change. It really is not difficult, you will have to grind out the hole in the door a little.

[Buzzie8]

I converted both my Rowes on my entry wizards to mars. You need to buy a conversion kit from JC, a validator from Jim at Etowah or off Ebay (I think it is a Model 2632, 24 volt). Also, make sure you get the software upgrade for the black relay box in the entry wizard. I have the instructions from the JC conversion kit. Contact me and I will send them via e-mail. Works great but will cost you around $700 all in. No problems since the install.

[MikeV]

If you really want to replace your entry system, you might take a look at the new system from Standard. One of the best systems I have seen and less cost than Coleman's, Unitec's and Hamilton's.

[okcarwashguy]

I am also looking into switching out the Rowe bill acceptor to a Mars acceptor in the JC Entry Wizard. Has anyone done this successfully? I've already spoke with Jim at Etowah Valley and he doesn't have a solution due to the all the JC parts. I have consistant bill jams with the Rowe and need to switch to Mars to elimate customer complaints. I already spoke with JC and they said it can't be done, although they offer Mars acceptors on their new Entry Wizard. Greg, any suggestions?

I have replaced my rowe with the mars in my entry wizard and it wasnt to bad. Had to do a little grinding to the validator to get it to fit properly but nothing that effects the operation of the mars. Now it actually takes bills instead of spitting them out 20 times on every bill.

[okcarwashguy]

Try Suzo Happ for your mars validators they have the best prices in the US.

[okcarwashguy]

I have one of the new Standard Guardian machines and have been very pleased with it. My other is a entry wizard and I wish i had two of the standards!